Chiropractic - Dr Peter Martone/Owner Atlantis Wellness Center

We have so much fun talking with Dr. Peter Martone Chiropractor and Owner of Atlantic Wellness Center in Lynnfield, MA.
We discuss how chiropractic works, what being out of alignment does to the body and how an adjustment can help improve health.
Why he designed his own pillow, how his Neck Nest pillow can help with your forward head position and why Dr Martone should also be known as Dr Sleep Rite, and how you can start living the "Deep Sleep Lifestyle".

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Hey everyone, I am psychic medium Angel, Amy. And Hi everyone. I'm Lila. So today we're going to be discussing an alternative health technique. So if you're looking to heal the physical, mental or spiritual parts of yourself are curious about what to try or what could help you live your best life. You're absolutely in the right place. So thank you for listening. Today, we have a guest that I'm so excited to introduce. He's actually my chiropractor, Lila. And he is Dr. Peter. My Tony. So welcome. Thank you so much. It's great to be here. Yeah. And Dr. mortoni is the owner of Atlanta's chiropractic wellness center in Linfield, Massachusetts. So let's start here. I met I actually met Dr. Maher 20 years ago, through a friend we kind of crossed path. I don't know if you remember this at a social event. But anyways, not. And I don't my memory I would love. So we were actually at a house in. Wait, I actually I think it was Wakefield. And I'm trying not to drop the name of the person. But she ended up having a dinner party for all of her helpers. And people that have helped her move forward. Physically, mentally, emotionally, or spiritually. I remember. Yeah. And I believe our mutual friend is Ana. And Ana introduced me to because at the time she worked at Atlantis, yeah. And so then what happened is time kind of passed in, I ended up with a herniated disc, which we've talked about. Yeah. We've heard about this the last 10 episodes or so, right. Lila, what was your spinal diagnosis? Um, I don't know, like, specifically, but I know that I have like a functional short leg. So it's okay. Hips, lower back. Yep. And you're right now you're doing pretty well. Yeah, I also have a lot of problems. Okay, old lady stuff. And so I started to see Dr. Maher, Tony. And let me tell you, when I walked into your office, I couldn't I could barely walk. Like, I don't know if you remember it. My husband was tying my shoes. Voting on my pants. Like, right. And now I'm back on the treadmill, weight training. It was a year process. And it was definitely a recipe but you were a big part of the recipe for me. So thank you. Oh, that's so great. It's fantastic to hear these stories, when when you have a patient like you that comes in the camp walk in that is at your wit's end. And now you're back to your life drug free, you know, surgery free, and now your your long term outcome is way more favorable than you know, it takes a little bit of time to fix the damage that occurred. But once you fix it, it's fixed. And you're good. I love it. Yes. So thank you so much. So why don't we start by you telling us what interested you like, why did you first get into chiropractic care? So getting into chiropractic care was a little bit of a zigzag story. So kind of my whole life was. So I was in an auto accident when I was young in high school. And my father took me to a chiropractor. And I walked in, and I walked out. And I said I'm never going back. I hated it. I was not where I thought you were. I love the realness. And I just I said, you know, this isn't for me. And there's a lot of medicine in my family. So I went to UMass Amherst that was an exercise physiologist, and my path was going to medical school. And then I was looking at you know which school to go to and, and I was a lifeguard down at Revere Beach at the time. And I had to take this certification course to to be able to be a lifeguard so I took my my reopened my certification course. And then it met a chiropractor there and he's like, Oh, what do you decide to do? I'm like, Well, I'm Gonna go to medical school is like why? In kind of in the short of it, I was like, I want to help people and, and he's like, Well, have you ever thought about chiropractic? And I'm like, Yeah, I did. Well, I didn't, because I'm gone. And it really wasn't, wasn't for me. I don't like the whole thing with the neck. I didn't. I just didn't. I didn't like it took me a long time. I had to be not able to walk. That's how I got here. Most people come to my office as a last resort. Yeah, we're my last. No offense or anything. I've tried everything. After 21 years of doing this, I'm everybody's last one. So I'm okay. So I, so he was like, Why do you want to be a medical doctor, I want to help people. And from that accident, I had always had a stomach issue. And never put two and two together. I had reflex I didn't have a really solid stomach. And he said, Well, if you come in, he's like, I can adjust you and I might be able to help. But I'm like, no, no, no, I'm okay. I'm good with it. And then he explained something to me that I had never thought about before. He said, If you're watering the garden, and you're stepping on the garden hose, is that garden going to be able to flourish? And the answer to that question is no, because it's not getting the life force of the water. So when the spine is out of alignment, the same thing happens. So if there's area of your spine that is out of alignment, then that could put pressure on a nerve, and it could affect the ability for the stomach to function. So you might not need to take that medication anymore. You might just need an adjustment. I'm like, Alright, he was so persistent. I said, You know what, alright, let me try. Within three adjustments. I never had a stomach issue again. I'm like, Holy mackerel, if I could do if, if I can do that, and they just started thinking about, you know, medication free and be able to help people with a drug free approach. That's more in line with my philosophical belief. Yeah. So I enrolled in chiropractic school. Beautiful. So I have to tell Lila, this. So he has this chart on in one of his rooms. And there's a in Oregon, that's a you can correct me with this. There's an Oregon attached to each like disc, or the like. So this talks about, let me help you. Please. Angel, me, this is not my Yeah, you feel it, right. Yeah, feel good enough to tell me to say, okay, where I'm going with this is at my pieces is spiritual. And I connect, I connect to humans to the emotional component. And I believe that each part of the spine, carry some kind of energy and emotion in it. But we'll we'll get to that. So explain this chat. That's the the nervous system controls everything in the human body. The reason why Atlantis is called Atlantis is because literally translated means island of Atlas. And Atlas is the top bone that holds up the human that holds up basically the brain, which is Atlas holding up your world. So that's why it's called Atlas. And it is the most significant bone in the human body. Because the brain controls everything through the nervous system. In these nerves, electric conduit, like the electrical system in your house, in your spine would be like the fuse panel. So if you go down to the fuse panel, and you look and you see fuse, number four goes to the living room. Yeah, and there's a fuse blown downstairs. And then before you know that there's a problem in the living room, right, and then this one goes to the bathroom, this one goes to the kitchen, this one goes to the you know, the master bedroom, the spine is the same way, each level of the spine, a nerve comes out between this bone bone, and then does a disk space. And then that disk space. The reason why it's there is for movement, but it also creates space for nerves to come out. So as you lose the disk space, you're compressing the nerve, and you're affecting the function of that nerve. And that nerve goes somewhere. So So let's say that nerve is going to the lungs. I know then, if a child has exercise induced asthma, that they will more than likely have a problem in T two to T four because that's the direct innovation to the lungs. So asthma in my world, everybody has fear. So so looking at like is the is the child constantly talking about being afraid of the dark or so I come at it. So I love how Dr. Ma Tony Lila comes at it from like the physical on in an app. And I always come at it from up down on in and maybe that's why it was you were my last resort. Because yeah, so isn't this fascinating? Yes, it is. So briefly, since both Amy and I are familiar with chiropractic, but if some of our listeners are not what exactly does a chiropractor do? All right. So there are different types of chiropractors in the within the profession, different schools of thoughts. But ultimately, the way that the profession was founded is on this neurology, so aligning spine to improve health, okay, so when you're out of alignment, that puts pressure on the nervous system, that that causes dysfunction in the nervous system and throws the body out of balance. So that is why the old school chiropractic is really focused on the neurology and how the body heals from the inside out. There's this, you know, since insurance kind of came into the play, and now you know, the insurance is set up to treat conditions, then the schools kind of recenter themselves around to treat conditions. So now there's a lot of neck and back pain and shoulder pain and in in this whole convoluted mix of how chiropractic is, is is seen, and how chiropractors practice. But the fundamental principles in the 33 principles that started the profession, is all based on aligning the spine to improve the function of the nervous system. Now, when you talk about what else does it do, it also plays a significant role in improving the biomechanics, which then can help decrease pain. So it's really good at pain, but it's not a pain treatment, per se. So what chiropractic really is designed to do is to maintain maintain function between that bone bone in disk space. And I'll tell you why you have degeneration, I can tell you why you have loss of disk space, why things herniate what arthritis is, and all the misconceptions about it. I think that is super important because the body works on specific laws. But ultimately, what chiropractic is for is to improve biomechanics within between two bones. And especially when it's done at the spinal level, that improves function takes pressure off of the nervous system. And then people that have been unable to heal from from years of dysfunction through the different trying different medications and having issues with digestive systems and immune systems, you start to see by restoring nervous system. By restoring the function back to the nervous system, people can really improve their health and wellness. Okay, so listen, everybody. So my parents are in their 70s. And they found chiropractic 20 years ago. And both my parents took have taken no medication. Except recently, my father got COVID, which spike mess with his blood pressure. So now he is on blood pressure. But he's meds but he's determined to get off of them. And they see their chiropractor like, I see the trainer. They're big, you know, big, big, big believers in chiropractic. And I'm a little late to the game with this, but yeah, let's talk a little bit about like, Let's go here. What is like the craziest thing you've seen? Like? Or what's a story you could tell us that people might find fascinating. So this one is, this is a really good one. When, let me see. This would have been 12 years ago now. My cousin passed out in school. Wow. And when she woke up, she was in she then she went into a coma. And when she will, she woke up out of the coma, I believe. Three, two or three weeks later, when she was unable to walk, she was unable to talk. And she, you know, she was confined to a wheelchair. Wow. And this went on for one month, two months, three months, four months, five months a year. And she started to I mean, she was able to talk but not really, you know, not great. And I told my cousin I said, I don't know what we can do. Let's just start getting her adjusted. We had a big benefit for her and I had mentioned that that's a benefit. And he started bringing her in. And after the first few weeks, she was you know, had a lot more cognitive function functioning. After two months, she was able to walk down the stairs. And after I believe it was four or five months she was not confined to a wheelchair anymore. They got rid of the You know, they were able to get rid of the, you know, the handicap ramp, and now she's graduating college. And now is that because you were able to sort of restore that function through like manipulating her spine? Yeah, you know. So, you know, medicine, calls it just insidious thought she just got better on Iran. Oh. Talk to my Tony's channel. So, so all results may vary. I'm not saying that's right. It, it's a treatment for anything. But what it does is your body works more efficiently when the nervous systems function more efficiently. That's it. That's all I do. Right. And then at this point, talk to my Tony, Mr. Tony, and 2022. Don't you feel like that's kind of like common sense. Well, let me make some comments about what's going on. Right. It's not that we'll just end it. Right. But do you think it's sorry, describes it when he even says like, now that insurance is involved, we can't say it promotes this whole health, it has to be over treating a specific condition, which I think is why we're also Yeah, you know, we think of like this one thing like, Oh, my back hurts. So preventative care versus is a call clinical. I don't know the right terminology. So ask me really hard, like, like the questions where you know, you're the listener is like, there's no way I would ever go to a chiropractor, they will kill me. They will rip my artery off my neck. Like let's dive in. All right. Okay. So that's the one right? The neck. Yeah, that's tick tock. Tick tock. The strap on it up. I think that horrible. How adorable. Yes. I wish you could see him. I know. Right. So once you go, you always have to go or stuff. I know. So listen, I I choose to see Dr. Mangione once a month. I just shuffled over the weekend. So I'm feeling a little off in the hip area. So you may see me on Wednesday, you will see me on Wednesday, I need to call. But I think that it just like any modality, whether it's Reiki or it's, we could list them all right, massage, emotional freedom, technique, it, you you listen to your body and listen to what your body needs in chiropractic works the same way. Now you might have a recommendation, being a doctor and a professional and being a master in this specific thing. And say you may want to see me Angel, Amy. You know, in the beginning, I saw you three times a week. And let me tell you, I would have crawled to see him crawled. So and then we started spacing it out. Right. So I think that, you know, we have to start to think about listening to inside our bodies in like, discerning what is fear? And what is maybe something that is either right or wrong for me. Yeah, that makes sense to go off on a tangent. So my she's saying don't do that thing with the strap and you'll probably run out. Yeah. So people think that, you know, my husband was put in traction. And he, he, he thinks it I don't even know what that is. That's what he came home 20 years ago and told me in Neverland, Pharmacopeia? Yeah. Because I keep saying it just you need to go see Dr. My Tony's the best. And he helped fix you. I know that sounds crazy. But you that's what you do. I'm sorry. You're gonna say it. He fixes. I don't sugarcoat things. Right. So what So what else do people think about when we think about chiropractic? Well, I've definitely you know, heard the thing if you get your neck done, you know, you'll have a stroke. I don't. I don't know how do you know what what like what? The good thing is that I do? Or like where it comes from that people say that? So so what we have to understand is that not all so there's the difference between manipulation and adjustment. It's synonymous when you're thinking about chiropractic. Manipulation is like one of those things that you see a strap and you pull in a whole bunch of stuff goes. You know, like it just you're just pulling things in. You're just causing things to move, whether you're rotating things to move. For a year, are you pulling things and things will move. And that's synonymous with chiropractic, versus identifying a specific area of the spine that is out of alignment, causing pressure on the nervous system, and then lightly moving that bone to restore function to that area. And it's a totally, it's a very specific approach to be able to regain mobility to a specific area. So let me kind of explain why somebody would even need chiropractic care. And, and, and why, you know, the body works on specific laws. The one law that everybody can relate to is, if you don't use it, you lose it. Right? Yeah, that's a lot in the body. Both of them are basically that Davis is lone Wolf's law. So if you don't use it, you lose it. What does that mean? If I put your arm or your leg, or if you've ever broken a bone, and you put it in a cast, and you restrict movement to a joint? Do you know what happens to that joint? No. Does it like, doesn't it kind of get weak and whether whether the body will absorb the joint space? Wow, the first thing it does is it pulls water out of the joint. What do you think that does to a disk? It travels up like? So when you take an x ray, you know, the MTA will say, Oh, you got normal arthritis. Oh, look at your age. That's just normal aging. None of that's normal. It is not normal for a disc or a joint to dehydrate. The body is doing that, because it's lost some sort of motion. And what do I mean by loss? Some sort of motion? Well, yes, you don't have your arm totally in the cast. But you don't have your joint totally in the cast. But when you injure something, what type of tissue does that injury heal with? When you let's say you pull a muscle. Yeah, that muscle will heal with what type of tissue with there's a big word, no scar tissue. Okay, so scar tissue in your runner, yeah, if you pull a hamstring, you have scar tissue, does that become more flexible, less flexible, when you have it is best that when less flexibility is less movement, less movement causes degeneration in the muscle. Okay, just like if you damage a joint, you have a pullback, that heals with scar tissue. you restrict movement, from the point that you hurt the joint, you will now degenerate that joint for the rest of your life. Okay, so that is why I can see stage one degeneration in children at 10 years old. When they're always on a computer and texting and sleeping in the wrong way. My God, Julie would kind of come see which I shouldn't see. I shouldn't see degeneration and arthritis when somebody is, you know, 30 or 40 or 50. I see 17 year olds that spines look like they're 60 or 70. And I'm seeing it more and more because of the modern day lifestyle covered by poor sleeping position. That's why now I'm in the sleep industry. Yeah, we got it. Chuck, we'll get to that. Okay. Have you ever broken a bone? Lila? No. But I have surgery. I have had surgery on my jaw. Oh, they like lockjaw. They did like a TMJ surgery so they actually like solid into this part and slid it forward. I don't think they do that. I'm really old. I don't think they do that. But they did it actually helped you know it helped with TMJ Dr. mattoni any where in the body that there's a joint okay, you can you can restore function to it. Most of the time. The problems are poor biomechanics. So let's say we had mentioned a short leg that's only the dynamics is because what happens is the body has a another law called the righting reflex, which basically means your body posture adjust to your head position. So most people believe it's all core strength or, Oh, I have a bad back or my muscles are tight. No, you're the body's telling the muscles what to do. Muscles are never the problem. The muscles are the minions. The problem is what is the body is creating the imbalance due to how you hold your head and how you're trying to write your eyes. So as your head comes forward, your body your hips, twist, and then it brings up one leg so you don't have a short leg you just have the body adapting through so as major muscle spasm, which is what we can shoot disc, I actually herniated my disc. As a chiropractor, you told me that yeah, it was my bad. I was a chiropractor at that time for 15 Here's the secret. I had back pain every day in my life, oh my god, right? And, and it wasn't until I herniated my disc and it was in the emergency room in my entire leg was numb. And I'm sitting there saying, how could it come to this, I'm sitting there hooked up on more, I had so much morphine, they asked my wife as a drug user, that doesn't even take an aspirin. It was I was in so much pain. And then I vowed to figure out what the heck was going on. I reviewed over 2,000x rays, and found the pattern, as your head comes forward, you hit Shift, and it does so through so last major muscle spasm, which causes your short leg and that muscle is the only muscle in the human body that attaches to a disk. So the problem is that weaken my disk over years and years of having forward head posture, and then I started, you know, changing the sleeping position, gym in my head back, took the you know, went from forward head posture created a good cervical curve in my neck, and I've never had back pain since until I just slipped on the ice went down today. So I'm gonna have to figure out not out here at home, no at home. Oh, geez. Okay, New England, you have to heal so you can help me? Oh, that's so interesting. It's so interesting. Yeah, because I think I have a terrible head position. So I know. And I believe like, as you know, when we incarnate and we're born, and we live in our first families, and we start the emotional component starts to develop, we start to feel different feelings in because we live in these physical bodies, your physical body, learns how to adapt to the emotions in the themes around you with your first family. So so how I carry anger in my body may be very different than how Lila carries it in hers. And it's really a mindfulness to looking at, like with my herniated disk. When I tuned in, and I asked myself, What am I feeling, I just felt complete, completely helpless, completely helpless. And as a child, there's some stories there about feeling helpless. And I thought I got it all. started seeing Dr. My journey, and connecting all the dots of my little special recipe. And yeah, so you know, just that might really resonate for someone, where if you do have back pain, or something going on with your spine, or even your physical body in general, just really asking yourself, like, how does this make me feel? And even if you Google, like the emotion wheel, there's more than three emotions. Everybody knows. And really digging deep into that. Right? Well, and then one of the things that you had said about that feeling then very vulnerable, coming into the office and saying, like, lying down on that table, like I'm in so much pain. Yeah, you know, and so finding that person, that practitioner that makes you feel safe in that. So let's talk about trust. Because here I was on the table, and I knew that I felt helpless. And for me to be in that vulnerable state that Lila just suggested and talked about inlet, Dr. Maher, Tony in was a complete form of bravery and courage for me to step through the vulnerability. And I just feel that you're more Dr. mattoni. Then Dr. Air quotes, you have just such a presence for us being women. Can you feel this Lila? I always make Lila feel like you have such a nice presence where it not. It's like, even if you don't speak a word, you can feel that you really care about the person. But my favorite of all time is when you slide into the office like Kramer and you start singing to me jelly me you you've done it a few times and it's fun. Well and that's good that you've had the experience right? So you understand like when someone's there when Amy's there and she's in so much she's like all do anything to get out of this pain. You know exactly what that feels like. Which I think is is hugely important because it's a big driver of pain. No good. And I'm not gonna even think I told you it is not a great experience when you're coming in with that much pain to have me jump on you Right. And, and to move things, it is so much better. To, to I mean, the trust is is a huge issue and you have to as a doctor, respect that because I'm not just giving you advice, I'm putting my hands on you. And that is a huge, you know, barrier for a lot of people to overcome. And I as I have to be very comfortable with, you know that relationship and respect it and in in really put the patient at ease when they're at that first vulnerable because the line on my table vulnerable because they're in so much pain, they think anything. Um, I have so, so many people come into my office, they say, Oh my God, I've heard so many good things helped me but just don't touch me. Right? And I'm like, Okay, let's, let's get over that. Let's address that. I have to touch you in some way. But Jesus, put my hand on my lap. Like this, I put my hands over, like, Oh, my God. It doesn't work like that. But you know, it's your right. You, you. It's a very tough place for a patient to be. And I appreciate that. You you feel that way. Oh, my pleasure. I'm going to talk a little angel, Amy secret. Oh, so I so I actually trust men more than women. Oh, I do. I and here's why. And I read people so I know when someone is gifted in their thing. And that's why I came to see you. But I have you ever thought about this Lila, whether I trust women, I don't mean to like draw genders in. But I and I love women like 90% of the people listening to this right now we're female and I love you all. Men tend to carry a energy of like real honesty. Like there's not It's not sugar coated, not all men, but most men kind of just like, they they find their thing. Whether we call it a gift or not. They find their thing and they own it. And they they move through it. And I that's I find that very safe. Not just I'm not saying women don't that's not what I'm saying. Women do. But I we tend to be really nice, that that feminine sign and be like, Lila It's okay. Tomorrow, your hair will look better. It looks like shit today. I mean, you know, I tell you? Like a matter of fact. Yeah, like I have a lot of guy friends. And I think because I just shoot real. Yeah, right. Thought I can say tell you the way it is. So I tend to I do work with female practitioners. But I predominantly have male healers, which is really unusual. Just noting that anyone that finds it interesting, I suppose. Yeah. So then I won't hire the female contractor. Now, you know, I tried one before you. And she she was she was really nice. But something about it. I felt energetically we were mixed matched. And so once I think she helped me get over my fear of chiropractors, first of all, and then I mean, when I saw you, you could have put like a needle in my head. And I went about like my eyeball. Like it's good. Sure. Right. Does anyone come not with back pain? Yeah, I mean, we see infants and babies and kids. But yeah, people come with, you know, saying that they, you know, I heard that you helped my uncle, you know, get off blood pressure medication, I want to do that. Not that the chiropractic care, again, is a treatment for blood pressure, right. But when you see the body in this, this kind of goes back to your asthma. The body is a dance between two systems. And it's the parasympathetic and the sympathetic nervous system fight or flight or thrive, right, survive versus thrive. And when you have an imbalance in that system, in Thrive takes over versus survive, then then you're chronically ill, you're tired, you have sleep deprivation, there are issues when you're constantly in survival, you have digestion issues, you have breathing issues, you know, so so the the we live in a world where we are constantly taught to be afraid of everything Hmm, in we live in such an anxious state, we suppress three systems, immune system, digestive system and reproductive system, those systems are all at, at stress or suppressed due to the you know, due to the threat due to the survival state that we live in. So people all come into us with the same issues, they can't they have digestion issues, you know, gut problems, and you know, E. coli, the, you know, just so many digestive issues, their hormones are out of balance, or they have autoimmune issues, all of that is a suppression in the parasympathetic system, because they, they living in such anxiety in such a high state of stress, the adjustment, especially if the Atlas balances that immediately. And when you get that adjusted, in, the chiropractor doesn't explain that to you, because it just adjusting you for pain, the patient goes home, they're dizzy, they go home, they're really tired, they could, they can have a headache, if they, if they go to the gym, you know, there's, there's a, if you're going to decide to start chiropractic care, you want to feel comfortable with the chiropractor that you're going to that they explain things, and that's the one big thing that that that I like to do, is I like to have that patient in front of me, tell them what to expect, right? Tell in and then tell them, you know, listen, it's okay to get adjusted, just take a little time because you're gonna be more tired. Because because I recognize that they're in high anxiety, and they're going to, you know, want to sleep. Because you have to listen to your body. And you know, and then when you came in with that much pain, you're not just immediately going to get out of pain, that's an acute injury, it's like breaking a bone putting a cast on and taking the cast off and saying the bones healed. Right? One of the big things is time. And you work with the patient. And the patient needs to know is this going to be one day issue, a three day issue a month, a year, and just be upfront with the patient, let them know. And then you make you decide if you feel comfortable, because I will give you the treatment plan that it takes to correct something, not just to get somebody out of pain, right? There are underlying issues. If I see disc degeneration, I want to reverse that. Because just like when the disc, when the body pulls water out and turns that rate that grape into a raisin, you can't make that raisin a grape again. But you can take that raise and put it on water and it will swell up and you can get this guy back. And it's so important to let the patient know what's possible and what it takes to get there. So I always say to Dr. My Tony, like I gotta let you in like, so I have a mindfulness, when I'm going to resist out of fear or anything right in, add in any kind of emotion, or maybe just anxious. And so there's a place I go to inside my body to try to relax to then let him do his job. What are some little things you might do in the office to help calm someone down or bring someone inside their body? Yeah, so I'm on I was on the board of chiropractors. And I told them that I do this. And they're like, What are you crazy? We don't think you're crazy. I don't even know what school, they would probably tell you not to do this. Because the you know, I, I don't have boundary issues, right? Because of basically how I practice and what I do. But understanding that the body works a very specific way when you go into a massage therapy room. Do you have bright lights on now know why? Right? Right. So relax, right? I call it the Zen times. So what I'm going to adjust somebody's neck, there's a there's involuntary muscle tension that happens when there's bright lights through the spinal accessory nerve. It's a cranial nerve that comes from the brain goes to the eyes, and then goes to the traps. So if somebody is going to throw something at you, and you don't see it, but your body will move out of the way because of an involuntary constriction, that's that's a protective mechanism. So if I go to adjust somebody, and I put a force in, and let's say the body bounces me off, and it doesn't want me to adjust, I have all these pink like Himalayan sea salt lamps in every room. So go over I'm like, if I shut off the light on you before they're like No, I'm like I'm gonna shut off the light. And then we're going to adjust you and then within seconds, the muscle that layer of that muscle tension peels back and then and then I go to adjust it and it moves so much more. To energy, needs energy. Now we have these big lights right on Reagan, Fenway Park, right? I would never let you in in the air. Right? We'd have to shut these right down. Yeah, it's fascinating. So fascinating. Yeah. All right, let's get into sleep. Because you know, how many times have you woken up and you feel worse, like so bad in the morning? All right, let's get to it sleep position or asleep. All right, he's asleep guy. So when I was in that emergency room, and I realized that, that I needed to figure out what was going on, I looked at 2,000x Ray. And I found that what's happening due to poor sleeping position, actually, it's not even sleeping position, it's sleeping posture, because I was a back sleeper at the time. And because of my poor sleeping posture, coupled by me, hunched over patients all day, texting on my phone, being on a computer, I lost the cervical curve in my neck, what that means is, my head comes forward, right? You see people, you look at him that all their you know, their heads, lean forward. And then my body posture adjust to that position. So I said, if this is a fact, right, through these three laws will flood Davis's law and then writing reflex. If I fix the cervical curve in my neck, I was getting adjusted, I was getting my back adjusted, but it was always in pain. So the adjustment is not to get you out of pain, the adjustment doesn't instantly make you feel better, it instantly makes you heal better. Okay, so it puts your body in a place. So the way they explain it to my patients like this, your spine, do the the scar tissue was like hardened clay. With the adjustment, we can take your clay and we can put in water. Now that makes it more moldable. But it's up to you to expose it to a different molds. So I started rolling up towels and coming up with all of these different things to be able to sleep with a pillow is a is a is defined as a support for your head, which if you use the wrong pillow and you sleep on your back, your heads gonna come forward. When you sleep on your side, people typically tuck their chin. So it's all forward head posture, stuff that you're creating dysfunction in your tie your spine and your hip to be out of alignment due to your poor sleeping position. So all of that stuff, you're not going to fix a car practically because all the chiropractic care is doing is making you more moldable you still need to expose it to a different mold. So we invented this pillow and but in a sense, what it is, is sticking something underneath your neck in a position and getting your neck arched back over the pillow. You're not supporting your head. You're supporting your neck. Like a lot of the cervical pillows support your head too much. You want to put like a soft down pillow and gym and under your neck in lie in that position for at least an hour night. Just fall asleep in that position. That's it. And if you're listening to this, you need his pillow. Plug your pillow. It's neck nest. Yeah, I don't even call it a pillow. It's a neck neck for your neck. Like that weird does is it? Does it have a hole in the middle? No, that's what I didn't I didn't want to do that. I don't own it. So it's, it's it has like it's a roll it. So the reason why we designed it this way is I didn't I don't want like big pillow because if you had a big you have a big pillow you had you rest your head on it, right. So I used to take down pillows and put them up on their edge. So if you can imagine instead of what the 2013 inches wide it is, now it's only like four inches wide, but it's really high. And then my neck would compress it you only need to support three inches. So from the pillow to the top, your neck just needs to be three inches high. So this compresses all the way down and really just nest your neck into a nice neutral position. So I can fall asleep with a glass of water on my chest and wake up and it will still be on my chest. And I don't toss and turn at all at night because my body is in a neutral sleeping posture. I'm a nightmare. Everybody. I used to be I used to my coverage used to be on the ground. My pillows used to be on the list. I could never I was all over the place. I had shoulder problems, IP issues, back issues. Yeah, my husband always I'm like a million pillows like the Princess and the Pea. He's always like they just keep coming in Bed Bath and Beyond this pillow that pillow. Turn them up roll. Can't you know your hands fall asleep. Your arms fall asleep it's because of you. So I tell people this write it because people say there's no way you can fall asleep like that. And so, either like I sleep on my right side. Maybe I go to my left or once I sleep on my right side, I sleep on my left side. Okay, let's do a little experiment. I want you to get in the position that you fall asleep. And then I want to, I want you to watch a two hour movie like that isn't the best? And they'd be like, No way. Exactly. Yeah. So you are all over the place from the second you fall asleep. And if you're not all over the place, which means you had three glasses of wine before you went to bed, but two glasses of wine, you're gonna wake up, you're not gonna be able to move. You're gonna say, Oh, I slept the wrong way. No, you didn't sleep the wrong way. You Your reason why your body tosses in turn is because it's in pain. So you didn't sense the pain because you had the alcohol, your body stayed in your poor sleeping position, and you finally pulled the muscle in the neck. Now you can't move for three days. But that's okay. It's just me. And then you have the sleep herbs to that I bought. Take herbs for you. I like a slow, slow burn. I don't know. It takes me a while again. I have the bottle. Thank you for supporting me. I really appreciate it. Absolutely. Because I resonates with me, but I just let me know. So my acronym now and we're going to be doing the sleep summit I had mentioned to you is Dr. Asleep. Right. Okay. And in the podcasts that we were going to do, which we have some of them recorded sleep tight with Dr. Sleep, right? I want to be in every bed in America. My wife doesn't like it too much. All right. All right. So we so one of our biggest things is, is people have problems in one of three areas, if not all three, getting the sleep, staying asleep, and waking up well rested, right? Yeah, I'm all for all three. That's why I bought the herbs, anything I was like, you have to take them at them. That's me, that's good. Just put them on muscle test with them, I think stick of under your pillow. So the product that she's talking about is deep sleep. Deep Sleep is formulated not to knock you out. So it's not a sleep supplement that will just knock you out. It says it's a supplement that will allow you once you're able to fall asleep to get you good restful sleep. I also give it to people during the day with anxiety so it doesn't make you tired. What it does is it helps your body get into into deep sleep. And there are specific ways your body needs to get into deep sleep. And the most critical way is that your core temperature needs to drop by two degrees in order to get good deep sleep. So we talked about living the deep sleep lifestyle. Donate 300 calories within three hours of going to bed. Take deep sleep. Okay. Take deep sleep. one two or three supplements. Before half an hour before you go to bed. You have to figure out what works for you. One will be good for you. And then here's the big one. This is a this is a doctor sleep right special. Okay, only here on this on the podcast here. Yeah. sleep with him. You might not be able to do this because I know how you like it to cozy at night. Sleep with the hands and your feet out of the covers. Oh, wow. You know what, though? Intuitively, halfway through the night. I take my little cozy socks off. And I all the blankets and I make it so my feet are hanging. That's crazy. That's like so intuitive. Oh, wow. You're amazing. Okay. So you're saying to keep your your hands and your feet out? Yeah. Why? Yes. Yeah. So remember your body core temperature needs to drop. Okay, so your body only cares something in the body called allostatic load it it's a hierarchy your body wants to survive, okay, for it wants to thrive. That is why we get sick in the wintertime. Yeah, not because we don't get it. So it's okay, keep it clean, keep offend anybody? I don't want to get canceled culture, right? So, so your body wants to survive before it wants to thrive. So, core body temperature is a survival system, right? So you can have your body dropped below 96 degrees, let's say and then you'll have hypothermia. But think about that in a 68 degree room, you know or 58 degree room or when you go outside at 40 degrees outside your body takes an enormous amount of resources to keep the body warm. And it will suppresses your Thrive systems immune system, digestive system or reproductive system. So when you're sleeping, you want thick, thick covers from your neck down to your hips. Okay? Okay, because that's what your body cares about keeping warm. So it will temperature regulate, use your hands and your feet like radiators. It will take the warm blood and cool it out the hands and the feet to drop the temperature accordingly. Then when your feet get really really cold, I'm saying fascinating the lilacs mouth. Fascinating as I sleep in my E T sweatshirt, no lie. I do. And then when your feet get cold, yeah, then it's time to pull them back in because your body is already cooled down. That's so interesting. I learned so many neat things today. Yes, definitely. Wow. It was like really, really enlightening. event I learned even more than coming to see you, which was good. Because we don't usually get to talk for like 15 minutes. So it's great. He's busy. Everybody's busy. And I get I get people get mad at me because I am so busy now. But I don't I got it. You know, I get it. If you have any more time. Yeah, you do. Yeah. Just say any more time and then we set up separate. Right? Yeah, he'll work with you. So this was awesome. Thank you so much today, Dr. mattoni. For being here. That was just truly great. Great, great information. So how can people find you? How can they book an appointment? They can go on to Atlantis wellness.com. And you can you can just request an appointment there. Very, very simple. Nice. Can you get the pillow there? You cannot you'd have to go to NEC nest.com. Or when you come into the office, we're doing this whole new thing with this whole wellness experience. Yeah, so you can get it in the office. But I just don't. We don't sell it online through Atlanta's Very good. Yeah, that's awesome. Well, thank you. And thanks, everyone for listening. We hope that you found this enlightening. Please be sure to subscribe to our podcast we can be found wherever you get your podcasts. And you can find Lila and myself on Instagram at spill the ginger tea podcast. So if you have questions or comments, or ideas for future shows, we definitely want you to write us and give us your great ideas. And also you can find me Angel Laney at my angel ami.com I'd love to have you sign up for my VIP Angel club. So I basically built my own Patreon and you can join that if you're interested. And follow me at Angel ami 1123. So until we meet next time, be well